without local all industrial activity goes to high sec as hulk is literally falling apart when you just look at it. mac is just about the same and skiff still pack little punch and has no chance on it own with anything bigger than a cruiser, tho it is the only that might survive lon enough for help to arrive if it up against an individual or maybe 2.

but then lets say you took away local this makes BLOPS way the hell overpowered. no notice no defence short of being in the middle of a fleet defending you. you just made people sit in belts with miners and do nothing else.

you just made sure MY JF, F, RORQ, never leave the pos or warp anywhere other than POS/STATION, they have becomes too easy to catch.

in WH you might get some chance to warp something out before everything lands on grid.

you remove local you just forced people to camp and watch gates to make sure nothing has come though

you made the game boring for a large number of individuals. who now have to sit there permanently. or on shifts. just watching the screen.

not for me?
i have lived in null for the past 5 years i love it out here. i have lost more tengus than i care to mention, i have lost nothing to afk cloaky campers.

yes i can be hot dropped, and i have been, yes i can be gate camped and i have been, yes i have had my attention slip and missed that red in local that got me killed, yes i have been awoxed, hell i have even passed out at the keyboard with my ship in space.

i am not ignorant or oblivious of the risks of living in null.
but thus far i have made significantly more than i have lost
i have multiple sources of revenue so i am not dependent upon that one choice system thats perma camped the **** out of.

as for true sec hell yes take that **** away, all it does it says good ratting space here please camp.
dotlan i dont use it. so indifferent to the free intel you mentioned

my argument essentially boils down to hot droppers will become overpowered without local, even if you have someone on gate all it takes is for some guy to log into the system, the gate never flashes and there is never any warning, so guarding gates becomes moot, and its not like they possibly stop SBs from coming in anyways catching one of those is rather challenging.

and that overpowering of hot dropping is what i am arguing against.
my fear is that all pve activity will become so vulnerable that ratters/miners will be unable to afford to continue living in null.

and all it will take is to get 1 toon in the system

i know people have been quoting fozzy that there needs to be a way to disrupt activity in null, i am just saying taking local away might just exterminate it instead. which becomes far more problematic when sov defense becomes tied to activity.

Why do you assume additional wealth must come in isk? Just a few days ago there was a thread in this section about steering some of the null income away from isk. There are big changes incoming and I expect that reward overhaul will be part of the equation. Just don't listen fear mongers predicting how the risk-reward equation will turn out all bad. These are voices for keeping the status quo.

My personally favorite tools I mentioned in the post you claim you read. They are tweaks to jump distance/fatigue numbers - things that can discourage frivolous hot-dropping. If you ask me where the GÇ£frivolousGÇ¥ demarcation lies - that I would leave for CCP to figure out, as they have the data (and the vision for the level of risk in the game) to make an informed decision.



I believe there's going to be an overhaul to the null reward in connection to the sov changes. Which numbers will be changed, how, and whether even it will all be in isk... you can't answer that without detailed statistics. It's a CCP job.